| Calela Eventing |
| Sri And yet it happens. I meant a pain response from outside the ring. At home. If you associate refusing with pain from home the same applies at a show |
Bright Sunshine with a few High Clouds| Calela Eventing |
| Sri And yet it happens. I meant a pain response from outside the ring. At home. If you associate refusing with pain from home the same applies at a show |
| The Joker |
| Jeri I agree, to be honest a lot of what is being said in chat seems inflammatory and undereducated, I know that is probably going to offend some people but it's very easy to repeat something without doing your own research, and it seems very common these days |
| Calela Eventing |
| You really can make them. I’ve seen it with my own eyes countless times |
| The Joker |
| Cali At FEI levels you are not allowed to whip the horse over a refusal, only an encouragement to go forward if they are already moving forward and not stopped. Please educate yourself on the rules if you are going to comment on them |
| Morning Glory Farms |
| if you were truly against it then you wouldnt ride period. theres no way to "be against it" and still do it |
| Jericho Stables |
| Anything you do with a horse can lead to risk or injury. I’ve seen plenty of freak accidents happen not in a show ring |
| Calela Eventing |
| Fern Yeah but I mean if they refuse a jump or are about to but the pain response kicks in and they risk their life to avoid being whipped out of fear. That’s what I mean |
| The Old Gods |
| It depends on the horse, but generally, no. You can't. Even if there's pain and punishment. If anything, that will just cause the horse to lash out. |
| RFS Thoroughbreds |
| cali or if it's something they're scared of like an obstacle for trail or something you can use positive reinforcements and they'll also do it? |
| Calela Eventing |
| Jeri No, it doesn’t. I don’t agree with competitive shows or any shows at high levels |
| Calela Eventing |
| Eury So you’re saying you can’t make a horse do something they don’t want? Because yes you fucking can, if there’s pain and punishment involved you really can |
| The Joker |
| What causes them more harm and risk? And how do they abuse them to get them to clear fences? |
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| Calela Eventing |
| Sri And yet it happens. I meant a pain response from outside the ring. At home. If you associate refusing with pain from home the same applies at a show |
| The Joker |
| Jeri I agree, to be honest a lot of what is being said in chat seems inflammatory and undereducated, I know that is probably going to offend some people but it's very easy to repeat something without doing your own research, and it seems very common these days |
| Calela Eventing |
| You really can make them. I’ve seen it with my own eyes countless times |
| The Joker |
| Cali At FEI levels you are not allowed to whip the horse over a refusal, only an encouragement to go forward if they are already moving forward and not stopped. Please educate yourself on the rules if you are going to comment on them |
| Morning Glory Farms |
| if you were truly against it then you wouldnt ride period. theres no way to "be against it" and still do it |
| Jericho Stables |
| Anything you do with a horse can lead to risk or injury. I’ve seen plenty of freak accidents happen not in a show ring |
| Calela Eventing |
| Fern Yeah but I mean if they refuse a jump or are about to but the pain response kicks in and they risk their life to avoid being whipped out of fear. That’s what I mean |
| The Old Gods |
| It depends on the horse, but generally, no. You can't. Even if there's pain and punishment. If anything, that will just cause the horse to lash out. |
| RFS Thoroughbreds |
| cali or if it's something they're scared of like an obstacle for trail or something you can use positive reinforcements and they'll also do it? |
| Calela Eventing |
| Jeri No, it doesn’t. I don’t agree with competitive shows or any shows at high levels |
| Calela Eventing |
| Eury So you’re saying you can’t make a horse do something they don’t want? Because yes you fucking can, if there’s pain and punishment involved you really can |
| The Joker |
| What causes them more harm and risk? And how do they abuse them to get them to clear fences? |
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