| Calela Eventing |
| Ari I have, I’ve moved countless times to try avoid it. I know knot all the industry is like that. I’m talking about high level competition riders and not all of them but most |
Bright Sunshine with a few High Clouds| Calela Eventing |
| Ari I have, I’ve moved countless times to try avoid it. I know knot all the industry is like that. I’m talking about high level competition riders and not all of them but most |
| Dandelion Farms |
| Ari Yes! I agree! Most of this sounds like childish banter in my opinion. Pro chat stalker here. I've seen many arguments like these. |
| The Old Gods |
| Mm. whip =/= pain. A tap or waving it where the horse can see it is often all that's needed. |
| The Joker |
| Cali Sounds like you need to put yourself around better trainers and barns then if you are witnessing so much whipping and abuse. The whole industry is not like that so it's super concerning if that's all that you are being exposed to |
| Calela Eventing |
| Sri And yet it happens. I meant a pain response from outside the ring. At home. If you associate refusing with pain from home the same applies at a show |
| The Joker |
| Jeri I agree, to be honest a lot of what is being said in chat seems inflammatory and undereducated, I know that is probably going to offend some people but it's very easy to repeat something without doing your own research, and it seems very common these days |
| Calela Eventing |
| You really can make them. I’ve seen it with my own eyes countless times |
| The Joker |
| Cali At FEI levels you are not allowed to whip the horse over a refusal, only an encouragement to go forward if they are already moving forward and not stopped. Please educate yourself on the rules if you are going to comment on them |
| Morning Glory Farms |
| if you were truly against it then you wouldnt ride period. theres no way to "be against it" and still do it |
| Jericho Stables |
| Anything you do with a horse can lead to risk or injury. I’ve seen plenty of freak accidents happen not in a show ring |
| Calela Eventing |
| Fern Yeah but I mean if they refuse a jump or are about to but the pain response kicks in and they risk their life to avoid being whipped out of fear. That’s what I mean |
| The Old Gods |
| It depends on the horse, but generally, no. You can't. Even if there's pain and punishment. If anything, that will just cause the horse to lash out. |
| RFS Thoroughbreds |
| cali or if it's something they're scared of like an obstacle for trail or something you can use positive reinforcements and they'll also do it? |
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| Calela Eventing |
| Ari I have, I’ve moved countless times to try avoid it. I know knot all the industry is like that. I’m talking about high level competition riders and not all of them but most |
| Dandelion Farms |
| Ari Yes! I agree! Most of this sounds like childish banter in my opinion. Pro chat stalker here. I've seen many arguments like these. |
| The Old Gods |
| Mm. whip =/= pain. A tap or waving it where the horse can see it is often all that's needed. |
| The Joker |
| Cali Sounds like you need to put yourself around better trainers and barns then if you are witnessing so much whipping and abuse. The whole industry is not like that so it's super concerning if that's all that you are being exposed to |
| Calela Eventing |
| Sri And yet it happens. I meant a pain response from outside the ring. At home. If you associate refusing with pain from home the same applies at a show |
| The Joker |
| Jeri I agree, to be honest a lot of what is being said in chat seems inflammatory and undereducated, I know that is probably going to offend some people but it's very easy to repeat something without doing your own research, and it seems very common these days |
| Calela Eventing |
| You really can make them. I’ve seen it with my own eyes countless times |
| The Joker |
| Cali At FEI levels you are not allowed to whip the horse over a refusal, only an encouragement to go forward if they are already moving forward and not stopped. Please educate yourself on the rules if you are going to comment on them |
| Morning Glory Farms |
| if you were truly against it then you wouldnt ride period. theres no way to "be against it" and still do it |
| Jericho Stables |
| Anything you do with a horse can lead to risk or injury. I’ve seen plenty of freak accidents happen not in a show ring |
| Calela Eventing |
| Fern Yeah but I mean if they refuse a jump or are about to but the pain response kicks in and they risk their life to avoid being whipped out of fear. That’s what I mean |
| The Old Gods |
| It depends on the horse, but generally, no. You can't. Even if there's pain and punishment. If anything, that will just cause the horse to lash out. |
| RFS Thoroughbreds |
| cali or if it's something they're scared of like an obstacle for trail or something you can use positive reinforcements and they'll also do it? |
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