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That is super helpful, thank you so much. |
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Hey Hillcrest, lovely to meet you (: That's so admirable that you breed arabians in rl as well! Our passions in our real lives definitely show in our breedings on HEE, and I think that a solid line would be lovely to see! I just recently snagged a nice pure Black EEE Wild Stallion, and it felt like having Shetan at my stables haha. ♡ |
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Thank you! I'm afraid my breeding days are long behind me for horses, now I breed ferrets. LOL. Smaller and easier. But the lessons I learned from my first horses, and the wonderful Arabian mare Tina that taught me so much have carried through my life. I am looking forward to learning from all of you and working on developing rated colors (I'm attracted to pearls and creams and other shinies, not so much the patterns) and seeing what can happen with a solid. And I am JEALOUS of a wild black stallion! :-D that's awesome! What girl doesn't want Shetan in her stable?!?
Looking Glass Stable said:
Hey Hillcrest, lovely to meet you (: That's so admirable that you breed arabians in rl as well! Our passions in our real lives definitely show in our breedings on HEE, and I think that a solid line would be lovely to see! I just recently snagged a nice pure Black EEE Wild Stallion, and it felt like having Shetan at my stables haha. ♡
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Hi everyone. I'm trying to build my stable by investing in good mares, good geldings/stallions (to be gelded) for showing, and speculating with what looks to me, with my limited experience, as good colts or fillies. I had a question about some horses at auction. One stable is selling out all their AAs, but all are wild caught and the starting bid is 5000. I know in some areas that's the base price for capturing a horse, but it still seemed a little high for a starting bid for unproven, not WWW horses. Would these be a good option for me to start building? I mean, as long as they are P+ or better? How did you all get started building your stables? Any advice is appreciated... and Ellaira has been extremely helpful answering all my noob questions. :-) Thank you! Also, is it appropriate to post in here some matches/mares that I want to breed to see if you have any stud suggestions? I don't want to spam the feed. |
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Hillcrest Arabians said:
Hi everyone. I'm trying to build my stable by investing in good mares, good geldings/stallions (to be gelded) for showing, and speculating with what looks to me, with my limited experience, as good colts or fillies. I had a question about some horses at auction. One stable is selling out all their AAs, but all are wild caught and the starting bid is 5000. I know in some areas that's the base price for capturing a horse, but it still seemed a little high for a starting bid for unproven, not WWW horses. Would these be a good option for me to start building? I mean, as long as they are P+ or better? How did you all get started building your stables? Any advice is appreciated... and Ellaira has been extremely helpful answering all my noob questions. :-) Thank you! Also, is it appropriate to post in here some matches/mares that I want to breed to see if you have any stud suggestions? I don't want to spam the feed.
Hey there, love! For stallions I would actually recommend EEE+. Usually anything below that are used as geldings, unless it's a PEE with something they are looking for. EEE+ stallions are the best likely to produce well with PPP+ mares.
. Do you know how to match strengths to weaknesses? I know there's been talk about how to track training. :)
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Many people don't start out with a stallion in their stable at all. They'll use outside stallions from LBs (or non-LB stallions that have what they focus on), and breed them with their mares. This tends to be the quickest way to build up some ratings, but it does take time, and especially so if you're looking for colour matches. |
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Thanks! Yes, I'm not keeping any stallions/colts ungelded if they rate lower then EEE. I stalk the sales, auctions, show results, leaderboards, I'm a total nerd, so I noticed two things. First that there are lots of nice EEE or better studs available for breeding, and second that a lot of the top showing geldings are not EEE, but often PPP+ or PEP+ combinations. So it makes sense to geld any of them lower then EEE, but since I'm trying to build a gelding army for showing, I tried to find a few lower cost stallions or colts or geldings that were training nicely that I could geld and then show. My mentor gave great advice on that aspect, as well as giving me a detailed roadmap on matching strengths/weaknesses. And I learned a lot here about how to evaluate horses based on their training patterns. I've learned so much in a short time! I already see a few errors I made early on, but that's ok, it's how you learn.
Versailles said:
Hey there, love! For stallions I would actually recommend EEE+. Usually anything below that are used as geldings, unless it's a PEE with something they are looking for. EEE+ stallions are the best likely to produce well with PPP+ mares.
. Do you know how to match strengths to weaknesses? I know there's been talk about how to track training. :)
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Many people don't start out with a stallion in their stable at all. They'll use outside stallions from LBs (or non-LB stallions that have what they focus on), and breed them with their mares. This tends to be the quickest way to build up some ratings, but it does take time, and especially so if you're looking for colour matches.
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Hillcrest Arabians said:
Thanks! Yes, I'm not keeping any stallions/colts ungelded if they rate lower then EEE. I stalk the sales, auctions, show results, leaderboards, I'm a total nerd, so I noticed two things. First that there are lots of nice EEE or better studs available for breeding, and second that a lot of the top showing geldings are not EEE, but often PPP+ or PEP+ combinations. So it makes sense to geld any of them lower then EEE, but since I'm trying to build a gelding army for showing, I tried to find a few lower cost stallions or colts or geldings that were training nicely that I could geld and then show. My mentor gave great advice on that aspect, as well as giving me a detailed roadmap on matching strengths/weaknesses. And I learned a lot here about how to evaluate horses based on their training patterns. I've learned so much in a short time! I already see a few errors I made early on, but that's ok, it's how you learn.
Then you are on the right track. <3 Geldings are also acceptable as even SSS (not to be confused with Sub). EEE stallions that don't have exceptional colours, good training, or don't have some sort of sentimental value are also very good as geldings.
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Thank you! There are so many things to consider as I learn more about the game. Here I thought it was an eventing sim and I'd be riding around on a horse taking fences, I didn't realize it was so much more involved. :-) or that I would be completely hooked on it and want all the pretty horses right NOW. LOL. |
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Genetics question: As I'm trying to plan some matches for Nov. 1, and make good choices and not spam breed every mare I own, what is the best way to figure out colors? I understand that ratings is somewhat based on luck - I've seen some matches where even a WWW was matched to an EWE and ended up with EPE, so there's no absolute certainty of a high rating every time. But I wondered if there is a way to better predict color? It doesn't look like everyone does a genetic test on every horse, so you can't be 100% certain what might be recessive and be expressed in a foal if both parents have that recessive gene, but there has to be some way to make an educated guess? I have taken the time to read all the genetics information I could find in the forum, but it's not my area of expertise so I'm still trying to understand it completely. Does anyone have a chart or program they use to make a best guess on which genes a particular mare or stallion is carrying to better predict foal outcome? I'm seeing spreadsheets in my future. :-) And can you use other offspring to help determine parent genetics? Sorry this is getting in the weeds... but as I said I breed ferrets in RL, so I have a general understanding of genetics, and know what I'm breeding for and what I expect to get in a litter, but I don't have the full scientific background of the actual genes. Thank you all for any help. |
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If you have specific horses and questions about them, feel free to post them here! I've gotten decent at the genetics since I breed apricots. I have found this forum to be invaluable |
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