| QualitySH |
| Ari exactly, same goes with dog breeders too most ethical people breed to maintain good form and health but all you hear about is puppy mills and puts breeders as a whole in a bad light to a lot of people. |
Bright Sunshine with a few High Clouds| QualitySH |
| Ari exactly, same goes with dog breeders too most ethical people breed to maintain good form and health but all you hear about is puppy mills and puts breeders as a whole in a bad light to a lot of people. |
| The Joker |
| Luna That's a great point, it's never a bad thing to recenter and humble yourself Void and Trish Yup, all for views and controversy and shock value. Especially when it's marketed towards non horsey folk |
| Morning Glory Farms |
| or the videos are only a few seconds long to catch a bad angle or bad view or a slip in judgement |
| Painted Perfection |
| Even well respected and seasoned horsemen once in a while should go back to the basics and establish more bonding and humble themselves. Everyone can do with a bit of humbling once in a while. We often lose sight of the small things as humans |
| The Old Gods |
| Or the videos are edited in such a way that removes important context. |
| The Joker |
| I agree Quality, and oftentimes because of phone cameras etc people film the bad apples and try to paint everyone in the same light when in reality it's a few shitty trainers in a big field of really good horse people |
| QualitySH |
| I feel like there is nothing wrong with the horse industry as a whole. Some bad apples ruin the reputation but is often a very small percentage of the horse loving community. |
| Painted Perfection |
| In the end, its what's best for the horses not the people riding them. Horses didnf choose to be riden but they tolerate it |
| Dandelion Farms |
| Cali With that all said, there's no use trying to sway someone's opinion, especially without proven research and valid examples. The rules of horse racing are updated when problems arise and they are strictly enforced. |
| Painted Perfection |
| I think there are many people in the horse world who've lost touch with the animals and human bonds.....a lot of people need to go back to the basics |
| QualitySH |
| I think there is always a stigma in any hobby really and opinions that always clash against each other. |
| The Joker |
| Well I can assure you that I have not witnessed the kinds of things you are talking about amongst my competitors and peers, so I'm glad that the things you've seen and talked about are not universal and mostly localised problems |
| Calela Eventing |
| Dandy Yeah, there is. Ari I know, I’m looking but it’s all I have. I’ve removed myself from almost all yards, trainers and such but really it’s what I know. You know differently |
| Dandelion Farms |
| I'm not the most experienced in chat, but I have heard stories, done personal research, and worked with horses enough to know at least a fraction of the industry. Yes, it's messy, but that's how horse racing, dog showing, cattle roping, and any other animal sport/hobby is. There's always someone against it, and there's always someone for it. |
| The Joker |
| Yeahhh I've been working with horses for almost double the amount of time you've been alive for lol. It sounds like the horsemanship isn't great in the places you've been, I encourage you to find someone with better morals and knowledge if that is available in your area, it makes a huge difference in working with horses |
| Morning Glory Farms |
| theres nothing "happening" youre talking to more than a few people who are in the industries you are bad mouthing, youre the only one here swearing and getting riled up to try and force your point across but the point is simply just not right 🤷🏽♀️ |
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| QualitySH |
| Ari exactly, same goes with dog breeders too most ethical people breed to maintain good form and health but all you hear about is puppy mills and puts breeders as a whole in a bad light to a lot of people. |
| The Joker |
| Luna That's a great point, it's never a bad thing to recenter and humble yourself Void and Trish Yup, all for views and controversy and shock value. Especially when it's marketed towards non horsey folk |
| Morning Glory Farms |
| or the videos are only a few seconds long to catch a bad angle or bad view or a slip in judgement |
| Painted Perfection |
| Even well respected and seasoned horsemen once in a while should go back to the basics and establish more bonding and humble themselves. Everyone can do with a bit of humbling once in a while. We often lose sight of the small things as humans |
| The Old Gods |
| Or the videos are edited in such a way that removes important context. |
| The Joker |
| I agree Quality, and oftentimes because of phone cameras etc people film the bad apples and try to paint everyone in the same light when in reality it's a few shitty trainers in a big field of really good horse people |
| QualitySH |
| I feel like there is nothing wrong with the horse industry as a whole. Some bad apples ruin the reputation but is often a very small percentage of the horse loving community. |
| Painted Perfection |
| In the end, its what's best for the horses not the people riding them. Horses didnf choose to be riden but they tolerate it |
| Dandelion Farms |
| Cali With that all said, there's no use trying to sway someone's opinion, especially without proven research and valid examples. The rules of horse racing are updated when problems arise and they are strictly enforced. |
| Painted Perfection |
| I think there are many people in the horse world who've lost touch with the animals and human bonds.....a lot of people need to go back to the basics |
| QualitySH |
| I think there is always a stigma in any hobby really and opinions that always clash against each other. |
| The Joker |
| Well I can assure you that I have not witnessed the kinds of things you are talking about amongst my competitors and peers, so I'm glad that the things you've seen and talked about are not universal and mostly localised problems |
| Calela Eventing |
| Dandy Yeah, there is. Ari I know, I’m looking but it’s all I have. I’ve removed myself from almost all yards, trainers and such but really it’s what I know. You know differently |
| Dandelion Farms |
| I'm not the most experienced in chat, but I have heard stories, done personal research, and worked with horses enough to know at least a fraction of the industry. Yes, it's messy, but that's how horse racing, dog showing, cattle roping, and any other animal sport/hobby is. There's always someone against it, and there's always someone for it. |
| The Joker |
| Yeahhh I've been working with horses for almost double the amount of time you've been alive for lol. It sounds like the horsemanship isn't great in the places you've been, I encourage you to find someone with better morals and knowledge if that is available in your area, it makes a huge difference in working with horses |
| Morning Glory Farms |
| theres nothing "happening" youre talking to more than a few people who are in the industries you are bad mouthing, youre the only one here swearing and getting riled up to try and force your point across but the point is simply just not right 🤷🏽♀️ |
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