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12:24:41 Versa| I'm getting a tri-pawed euthanasia rescue once I'm in Tennessee. Long story short, I'm going to have a cat alongside birds. I'll PM you for specifics that I need help with lol. |
12:22:33 Witchy| So Ill have three days without it and then Ill be back and I do plan on expanding my SD and gelding army because SD makes so much more money than AD that I do on my other accounts |
12:21:59 Versa| Kiwi! You've got a kitty alongside your pigeons? May I ask for advice? lol |
12:21:30 Witchy| I *may* be able to get my upgrade back judging by how much I make in a day through showing I may be able to buy another 3 month within 6 days thank gid |
12:21:25 Kiwi My poor cat.
I unexpectedly had to go to work this morning, and now I'm home she's so clingy, and I want to just sit with her but I have too much to do so she's just following me around meowing 😭 |
12:19:50 Versa| I'm just making sure, love. I've seen lots of warnings handed out for that specific thing <3 |
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thanks for the critique! I love your art |
12:18:36 McFossil| TO capture today or to save me ebbies... that tis the question |
12:18:21 Versa| As far as critique, I'd say your hair is coming along. Could start trying to add stray strands, since it's never tame to a specific shape :) |
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I was going to move it onto a sunset anyways |
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Quizzical Quarters said:
Due to a lack of effective contraception, knowledge, and other resources, as well as the fact that childbirth was extremely risky, abortion was historically a common method of birth control and family planning. There are now better options, such as more reliable birth control, improved healthcare and insurance, and sex education to prevent unwanted pregnancies. With abortion so easily available, being pregnant may be seen as less problematic because the pregnancy can be easily terminated. This could potentially encourage women abuse because the consequences are less severe. Abortion becomes a safety net for women. Having the option may promote feminism, but "encouraging" sexual assault does not.
The United States has the highest death rate for pregnancy among all of the industrialized nations (17.4 per 100k) with women of color being disproportionately affected compared to whites (37.1 per 100k for blacks). Healthcare is expensive, and many insurances are, quite frankly, garbage. Being able to get birthcontrol requires being able to get time off from work to go to the doctor (because face it, not all men want to wear condoms). Sex education is, frankly, a joke in most southern states with them teaching abstinence only sex ed. No one goes out and gets abortions for funsies. Women get abortions because their life is in danger (ectopic pregnancy, their fetus died and needs to be removed because it started rotting...Yes, that still counts as an abortion), the fetus has severe deformities and won't survive after birth, she needs life saving medication that will kill or cause deformities to the fetus, she's financially unable to care for a child and wouldn't be able to support one (adoption/foster care is a joke because of how stupidly expensive it is), she's 12 and a family member molested her. There's dozens upon dozens of reasons a woman would get an abortion. |
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I can absolutely see where you are coming from. That is a fair argument and you raise excellent points :) At the same time, Kiwi's points about someone who was forced to concieve because of r@pe, etc. and physically could not raise a child in a happy healthy household and give that child an adequate life, should have to option to abort for the sake of the child. To save them from suffering through a potentially abusive life, a life where , if adopted out, they might not ever be loved as a child deserves to be, they might go through the system, turn 18 and be homeless, without any future. If, as Kiwi said, the mother is 12, still only a child, that child should have the choice to abort because absolutely NO child should HAVE to carry one of their own. Obviously I am not suggesting that people with uteruses should go about having abortions willy nilly but it should not be made illegal. People with uteruses should have a choice because there are times when it is (in my opinion) the most ethical thing to do. At the end of the day, I believe it comes down to body autonomy. Consent. If a person with a uterus does not consent to a fetus using their body (that is basically what it is) to keep itself alive, a person should have the right to an abortion. It is basic human rights to one's body and a right to choose who gets to use one's body. If someone has consented to intimacy but then for any reason later, no longer consents, it should be respected since everyone should have a right to their body. Even dead bodies have rights. Why shouldn't pregnant people? This isn't a question about feminism. This is a question about a person's right to give and refuse consent to their body. This is my personal opinion and it is no way meant to put people down or insult or cause negativity in any way. Just my opinion and another side of this incredibly complicated argument <3 This is not a personal attack or directed specifically at you, Quzzical Quarters, you just bring up some good points and I'd like to respectfully bring up some counter points as a response to what you said.
Quizzical Quarters said:
I'm pro-life. Will always be pro-life. However, I'm can understand and respectfully have a conversation about the topic. I can see where both sides are coming from, but fortunately, pro-life wins.
Human life begins at conception, in my opinion. It might only be a collection of cells, according to others. Some would start to argue that the clump of cells in question has personal experience, memory, and emotion, but this argument enters theoretical, nebulous ground and is, once more, unarguable. A distinct human life actually starts at conception.
The fact that abortion is not an option for some people does not excuse or justify murder. The moral conundrum was clarified by a reader of The Atlantic, who merely provided the initial K.; "I wish that I could be pro-choice because the awful circumstances so many women face—that I can’t even imagine facing—seem so much more real to me than the rights of a fetus who doesn’t even always look human. But abortion is the intentional killing of a human being and we look back with horror at anyone in history who decided a group of people did not actually count as people. We cannot solve the problem of injustice against women with more injustice. We need solutions that support women without killing fetuses.”
Due to a lack of effective contraception, knowledge, and other resources, as well as the fact that childbirth was extremely risky, abortion was historically a common method of birth control and family planning. There are now better options, such as more reliable birth control, improved healthcare and insurance, and sex education to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
With abortion so easily available, being pregnant may be seen as less problematic because the pregnancy can be easily terminated. This could potentially encourage women abuse because the consequences are less severe. Abortion becomes a safety net for women. Having the option may promote feminism, but "encouraging" sexual assault does not. Once again, this is my belief from what I've taken/understood, so don't come after me. Ive been respectful, you can too.
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No one should tell someone else what they can and can't do - or if it fits within a specific set guideline. If you have not had an abortion or been in a position where abortion was considered - do you have all the information to make judgment? Abortion is not a late night intoxicated 'fun' thing to do like a tattoo or piercing might be. It is not a choice made hastily or without thought. It stays with the person for life. But that does not mean it was a 'bad' decision. It might have been necessary; it might have been the best decision. But it was the person's decision. Think twice before you make judgment of someone else without expressly being in their shoes. Make decisions for yourself only - what you do today and tomorrow, and own what you did in the past ignorant or educated. Do not make or force a decision for someone else. If you are going to say that every blastocyst is a baby - then that means every female's period is the death of a possible fetus. Every expended ejaculation is wasted lives. Just because it is illegal does not mean it won't happen. It means there are less resources. It means there are less safe practices. |
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Quizzical Quarters said:
I'm pro-life. Will always be pro-life. However, I'm can understand and respectfully have a conversation about the topic. I can see where both sides are coming from, but fortunately, pro-life wins.
Human life begins at conception, in my opinion. It might only be a collection of cells, according to others. Some would start to argue that the clump of cells in question has personal experience, memory, and emotion, but this argument enters theoretical, nebulous ground and is, once more, unarguable. A distinct human life actually starts at conception.
The fact that abortion is not an option for some people does not excuse or justify murder. The moral conundrum was clarified by a reader of The Atlantic, who merely provided the initial K.; "I wish that I could be pro-choice because the awful circumstances so many women face—that I can’t even imagine facing—seem so much more real to me than the rights of a fetus who doesn’t even always look human. But abortion is the intentional killing of a human being and we look back with horror at anyone in history who decided a group of people did not actually count as people. We cannot solve the problem of injustice against women with more injustice. We need solutions that support women without killing fetuses.”
Due to a lack of effective contraception, knowledge, and other resources, as well as the fact that childbirth was extremely risky, abortion was historically a common method of birth control and family planning. There are now better options, such as more reliable birth control, improved healthcare and insurance, and sex education to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
With abortion so easily available, being pregnant may be seen as less problematic because the pregnancy can be easily terminated. This could potentially encourage women abuse because the consequences are less severe. Abortion becomes a safety net for women. Having the option may promote feminism, but "encouraging" sexual assault does not. Once again, this is my belief from what I've taken/understood, so don't come after me. Ive been respectful, you can too.
I respect your opinion, you've clearly put a lot of thought into it. However, your beliefs shouldn't decide what others can do with their bodies. I think that's always going to be the bottom line, whether you believe abortion is murder or not. Because abortion literally is just that, a matter of opinion. And there's no stopping it really, it is always going to happen, you can only stop safe abortions.
You are entitled to your opinion that abortion is murder, and it is in some ways a justified one, I can see where you're coming from despite not sharing it. However, the moral conundrum of abortion has been wildly debated and whether abortion is in fact murder or not really is just a matter of opinion. And that's exactly why everyone should have the choice of abortion. I'd also like to point out that the only side of this debate that actually infringes on anyone's autonomy is pro-life, there's nothing forcing pro-lifers to have an abortion or participate in anything adjacent. |
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See, at 17, I was able to walk in a gynocology clinic alone and get a morena IUD put in. No parental consent, no husband consent. It can be done in private and no one will know because I have to keep it from my boyfriends parents. That's why I believe birth control could be such an easy fix to this. That being said like Quizzical pointed out, just because I'm pro life doesn't mean I can't be kind and understand your point of view as well. |
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The Old Gods said:
No one goes out and gets abortions for funsies. Women get abortions because their life is in danger (ectopic pregnancy, their fetus died and needs to be removed because it started rotting...Yes, that still counts as an abortion), the fetus has severe deformities and won't survive after birth, she needs life saving medication that will kill or cause deformities to the fetus, she's financially unable to care for a child and wouldn't be able to support one (adoption/foster care is a joke because of how stupidly expensive it is), she's 12 and a family member molested her. There's dozens upon dozens of reasons a woman would get an abortion.
No, actually, I and many people from the work field would disagree with you on this. That's not considered abortion. Removing a rotting miscarriage from someone is absolutely not abortion.
From a fellow OBGYN, she clears it up here.
I highly recommend listening what she has to say, to anyone. |
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It looks like "The Handmaids Tale" may be coming true after all. This is just the beginning. |
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Buckleaze said:
It looks like "The Handmaids Tale" may be coming true after all. This is just the beginning.
I started the first episode today. It's so sad that my only reason to live right now is so that my family doesn't have to grieve even more right now. |
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As someone with a uterus who is on contraceptives, this entire ruling has been a massive blow to the autonomy of a woman and exacerbates the belief that our bodies must be violated in order for us to qualify for an abortion (even then, some states still do not protect your right then). The entire argument of letting abortion be left up to the states is one that we have seen before, and it ended in a civil war. Extending upon this, SCOTUS ruled the day prior to overturning Roe that state's do not have the right to dictate gun law (New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn. Inc. v. Bruen, overturned NY concealed carry laws). Furthermore, by saying it goes against one's religious beliefs is a bogus argument because the U.S. is a democracy not a theocracy. Additionally, Judaism is a religion that believes that abortion is healthcare and that life does not begin at conception (Talmud states that the fetus is mere water until 40 days of gestation, following that the fetus is considered a physical part of the woman's body, not yet having life of its own or independent rights. The fetus is not viewed as separate from the parent’s body until birth begins and the first breath of oxygen into the lungs allows the soul to enter the body.) No one wakes up wanting an abortion, no one decides to use abortion as a form of birth control, it is a right to bodily autonomy. The argument that 'no one is forcing you to have unprotected sex' is true, but flawed, because due to the increasing violence against women and the belief that women can use sex as a weapon, there are many individuals who have unprotected intercourse merely as a means of surviving a potentially dangerous situation. All this ruling does is eliminate safe abortion, increase the already saturated and underfunded Foster Care system (my state has childen sleeping in CPS offices due to lack of suitable fosters), underfunded public schools, abstinence-only sex-ed (teach abstinence but also teach people about their bodies, STIs/STDs, and what sex is because it has been proven that states who teach abstinence-only have higher teen pregnancy rates). This ruling will have the heaviest impact on already marginalized communities who do not have ready access to contraceptives, sex-ed, stable housing/income, the list goes on. Voting wont fix this -- we've been voting officials in for years who love to use our rights as a talking point and way to fundraise this, but they've had 50 years to codify Roe and prevent this from happening. But they didn't. Because if they did they would lose one of their biggest talking points for elections. Now I'm not saying don't vote (please, its your constitutional right) but I'm saying hold you officials accountable and stop letting them utilize your life as a poker chip in politics. |
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