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The punishment for a medical professional performing an abortion in a state that has banned it is 99 YEARS Rapists get 6months.. maybe 2-3 years.
It's so fucked up.
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I have my feelings on this and I think many may agree with said feelings. I feel abortion should be illegal when a woman was careless and had unprotected sex causing them to get pregnant when they "weren't ready" if you aren't ready you really shouldn't have sex. That being said, medical issues for mom, for baby, r@pe or inc3st it SHOULD be legal. As an 18 year old woman in America, you can see I agree with the overturning to an extent. But past that extent it is in fact ridiculous. Also I'm not gay and don't particularly "support" lgbtq+, I will love you and be kind to you regardless. I don't discriminate here. I'll love you the same as a straight person. Same sex marriages should STAY legal. You love who you love. |
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I was the literal child of an unplanned pregnancy. I have lived through the consequences of someone else's poor choices. Both me and my two younger siblings were heavily abused at an extremely young age. And where is one of my younger siblings now? Dead. Killed and cremated to hide the evidence of abuse when he was just 2 weeks old. My younger sister is permanently disabled due to the abuse we suffered. And of course, I live in the US and was born here. The government has no idea what they've done. Those people didn't want to have children for a reason, and you know what will happen now that they may be forced to raise those unwanted children? Child abuse. Those rates are going to jump through the roof. But of course "Put it up for adoption" into a broken system that is already filled to the brim with unwanted children. Foster homes are more often than not abuse houses. Children suffer assault and abuse of the worst kind. But hey, at least those babies weren't aborted, right? They're better off with nothing to eat, nowhere to go, and no one to love them, right? Doomed to live a miserable life until they can't stand it anymore and put an end to their own existence? I rest my case, and I'm sorry if I triggered someone. |
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Silent, social services definitely needs to be refined. No child should be left for adoption. But unfortunately, as I'm sure you can see, even with legal abortion it doesn't save a child from abuse. People with a record of abuse and s3x charges should NEVER be allowed children. They should be fixed once convicted imo. A r@post should never be allowed near that child. Foster care needs to do better and our government should do more to protect the unwanted kids. Especially closing off abortions. I am a Christian. I highly disagree with abortions, but I also see both sides with open eyes and an open mind. Like I said there are exceptions. I was an unplanned pregnancy. So was my sister. We were fortunate and grew up with a loving mom and set of grandparents. My father was a terrible father and we don't even know him. But I thank God every day my mom wanted me and kept me even though life was tough. |
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The overturning was really shocking to hear, and that's being said as someone who's Social Pyschology class spent around two weeks discussing every part of that leaked document. While I believe that the overturning of Rov v Wade could and very well will open up the gate for a whole bunch of other things like same sex marriage, contraception, and other things, as stated by the supreme court Justices themselves, it does not mean that the entirety of Abortion is illegal. It just means laws and legislation concerning abortion are entirely up to the states now, and there are still (though less than half) some states that have abortion legal. It's deeply troubling to know that I personally live in a state where they have now passed several laws concerning abortion as illegal and mal practice on a doctors part. I'm hoping something happens to change the course of this ship cause right now it just hit an iceberg and it's not looking too pretty. Hopefully people stop having their head up their ass and vote for people in this upcoming house election that can help people instead of hurting them. |
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Spirtasi, I agree, that being said it's just like marriage under 21, I live in a state where you can't get married without consent of both parties parents until 21. You can't get piercings further than lobes or any tattoos until 18. So every one of us skip to the states over. I feel it can open things it shouldn't also I just pray it doesnt |
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Hazelwood Grange said:
I have my feelings on this and I think many may agree with said feelings. I feel abortion should be illegal when a woman was careless and had unprotected sex causing them to get pregnant when they "weren't ready" if you aren't ready you really shouldn't have sex. That being said, medical issues for mom, for baby, r@pe or inc3st it SHOULD be legal. As an 18 year old woman in America, you can see I agree with the overturning to an extent. But past that extent it is in fact ridiculous. Also I'm not gay and don't particularly "support" lgbtq+, I will love you and be kind to you regardless. I don't discriminate here. I'll love you the same as a straight person. Same sex marriages should STAY legal. You love who you love. From a personal standpoint and as a medical professional, I disagree. My mom's first husband would hide her birthcontrol because he wanted her to become pregnant so that he could molest the child. She would have had an abortion to prevent the child from having a horrific upbringing. Abortion is rarely a black and white issue, and should remain entirely between a woman/afab individual and their doctor. |
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Hazelwood Grange said:
Silent, social services definitely needs to be refined. No child should be left for adoption. But unfortunately, as I'm sure you can see, even with legal abortion it doesn't save a child from abuse. People with a record of abuse and s3x charges should NEVER be allowed children. They should be fixed once convicted imo. A r@post should never be allowed near that child. Foster care needs to do better and our government should do more to protect the unwanted kids. Especially closing off abortions. I am a Christian. I highly disagree with abortions, but I also see both sides with open eyes and an open mind. Like I said there are exceptions. I was an unplanned pregnancy. So was my sister. We were fortunate and grew up with a loving mom and set of grandparents. My father was a terrible father and we don't even know him. But I thank God every day my mom wanted me and kept me even though life was tough.
I understand your viewpoint as a Christian. I was raised Roman Catholic by my grandparents who I have always called Mom and Dad, so I can see why you don't agree with this topic. I am glad that you view the situation with open eyes, as many do not. It is a testament to your character and I commend you for it. I am also glad that you had a positive life growing up, despite having a bad father. I have seen what the Foster/Adoption system has to offer, either through personal experience, or through friend stories. I should clarify that I was referring to the child's biological home. It does not always occur to families to give the child up, as was such with my case. My abuser was my mother and my father was unsure of how to approach the situation. My mother fought to keep me and my sister, despite knowing what she'd done because of "welfare" and such. The government provides incentives for certain qualifying families to care for their children, but never check to make sure the children are being cared for. These families may keep the child solely for the money they get for them. It has happened many times, and this overturning will only cause more issues like this to arise. |
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Silent Hill Equines said: My mother fought to keep me and my sister, despite knowing what she'd done because of "welfare" and such. The government provides incentives for certain qualifying families to care for their children, but never check to make sure the children are being cared for. These families may keep the child solely for the money they get for them. It has happened many times, and this overturning will only cause more issues like this to arise.
I was adopted at the age of 15. And not many kids are. I am extremely fortunate to have escaped what I was born into. I view the overturning of Roe vs Wade as the government selling the rights to my body, because that's what it was when I didn't even know I had rights. My heart aches for every person that has had to survive rather than live. |
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I'm pro-life. Will always be pro-life. However, I'm can understand and respectfully have a conversation about the topic. I can see where both sides are coming from, but fortunately, pro-life wins.
Human life begins at conception, in my opinion. It might only be a collection of cells, according to others. Some would start to argue that the clump of cells in question has personal experience, memory, and emotion, but this argument enters theoretical, nebulous ground and is, once more, unarguable. A distinct human life actually starts at conception.
The fact that abortion is not an option for some people does not excuse or justify murder. The moral conundrum was clarified by a reader of The Atlantic, who merely provided the initial K.; "I wish that I could be pro-choice because the awful circumstances so many women face—that I can’t even imagine facing—seem so much more real to me than the rights of a fetus who doesn’t even always look human. But abortion is the intentional killing of a human being and we look back with horror at anyone in history who decided a group of people did not actually count as people. We cannot solve the problem of injustice against women with more injustice. We need solutions that support women without killing fetuses.”
Due to a lack of effective contraception, knowledge, and other resources, as well as the fact that childbirth was extremely risky, abortion was historically a common method of birth control and family planning. There are now better options, such as more reliable birth control, improved healthcare and insurance, and sex education to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
With abortion so easily available, being pregnant may be seen as less problematic because the pregnancy can be easily terminated. This could potentially encourage women abuse because the consequences are less severe. Abortion becomes a safety net for women. Having the option may promote feminism, but "encouraging" sexual assault does not. Once again, this is my belief from what I've taken/understood, so don't come after me. Ive been respectful, you can too. |
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