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Snow Stable
05:01:31 Snow❆Gem
@fang

Safe driving!
Nightingales Ridge
05:01:16 𔓘 Issy
Oo red dead 2 fantastic horse
Ashcroft Park Stud
05:00:44 Ash
Buckskin is always welcome over here x)
Biko
05:00:28 
Also you know what would be nice? more options for the starter horses patterns or colors
Biko
05:00:08 
Sting
oooo that's a good idea
Ironhorse
04:59:38 Sting
Do we have Rose Grey?
We probably need more nicer Greys..
Biko
04:59:22 
He got here on friday or saturday and my pony was beating him up in the paddock😭😭
Nightingales Ridge
04:58:45 𔓘 Issy
Biko aaawwww
The Old Gods
04:58:43 Void Malign
White, at least, I can reroll and yeet at people who collect white mutations
Red Springs
04:58:32 
Awww Theodore/Theo
Nightingales Ridge
04:58:09 𔓘 Issy
Drive safe fang
Narran Park
04:58:00 Sting
Also buckskin is also starting to annoy me.
Its still a Bay.
Small things though.
Grey is Annoying Void...Although i dislike White more...I always seem to catch WWW WHITE stallions too
Biko
04:57:56 
y'all i just realised the clouds on the background move......
Biko
04:57:03 
Ohmygod my trainer just got a 3yo QH/Draft-of-some-kind brown pinto and he's so fluffing cuteeeeee
he's from VA
and his name is Theodore
Whitewolf
04:56:52 Fang
Well it’s time to drive home anyway. Feels like an eternity
Nightingales Ridge
04:56:47 𔓘 Issy
Oh lol
Narran Park
04:56:18 Sting
Issy, Just super easy to breed EEAA horses which will only produce Bay Foals.
Sabino seems to be like dog poo and just sticks to everything!
The Old Gods
04:56:14 Void Malign
about the only thing I avoid is grey (takes over too much and some of the grey coloration are kinda ugly) and frame (again, takes over and makes breeding a bitch)
Whitewolf
04:56:06 Fang
I imagine it would get annoying always getting the same color lol
Narran Park
04:55:16 Sting
I dont think they are ugly.
They are/were just SOOO common in X's. and super tricky to avoid breeding to for a while though...

Its funny though. in RL, i have a Bay Roan Sabino mare and its my favourite colour!

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Snow Stable
05:01:31 Snow❆Gem
@fang

Safe driving!
Nightingales Ridge
05:01:16 𔓘 Issy
Oo red dead 2 fantastic horse
Ashcroft Park Stud
05:00:44 Ash
Buckskin is always welcome over here x)
Biko
05:00:28 
Also you know what would be nice? more options for the starter horses patterns or colors
Biko
05:00:08 
Sting
oooo that's a good idea
Ironhorse
04:59:38 Sting
Do we have Rose Grey?
We probably need more nicer Greys..
Biko
04:59:22 
He got here on friday or saturday and my pony was beating him up in the paddock😭😭
Nightingales Ridge
04:58:45 𔓘 Issy
Biko aaawwww
The Old Gods
04:58:43 Void Malign
White, at least, I can reroll and yeet at people who collect white mutations
Red Springs
04:58:32 
Awww Theodore/Theo
Nightingales Ridge
04:58:09 𔓘 Issy
Drive safe fang
Narran Park
04:58:00 Sting
Also buckskin is also starting to annoy me.
Its still a Bay.
Small things though.
Grey is Annoying Void...Although i dislike White more...I always seem to catch WWW WHITE stallions too
Biko
04:57:56 
y'all i just realised the clouds on the background move......
Biko
04:57:03 
Ohmygod my trainer just got a 3yo QH/Draft-of-some-kind brown pinto and he's so fluffing cuteeeeee
he's from VA
and his name is Theodore
Whitewolf
04:56:52 Fang
Well it’s time to drive home anyway. Feels like an eternity
Nightingales Ridge
04:56:47 𔓘 Issy
Oh lol
Narran Park
04:56:18 Sting
Issy, Just super easy to breed EEAA horses which will only produce Bay Foals.
Sabino seems to be like dog poo and just sticks to everything!
The Old Gods
04:56:14 Void Malign
about the only thing I avoid is grey (takes over too much and some of the grey coloration are kinda ugly) and frame (again, takes over and makes breeding a bitch)
Whitewolf
04:56:06 Fang
I imagine it would get annoying always getting the same color lol
Narran Park
04:55:16 Sting
I dont think they are ugly.
They are/were just SOOO common in X's. and super tricky to avoid breeding to for a while though...

Its funny though. in RL, i have a Bay Roan Sabino mare and its my favourite colour!

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


The Joker

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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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