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Glacier Bay Cove
07:18:09 Glacier Kittens
I still miss them so much
Glacier Bay Cove
07:17:45 Glacier Kittens
Hopefully she is, both of my heart cats had kidney failure
Winterfall
07:15:42 →Winter
that's a pretty horse, Shark! Also can relate to grieving, i remember when my old cat Allie ran away. Never found her again and I still wonder if she's alive today, Glacier
Darkside Dreams
07:14:39 Grape | X hoarder
I don't know how long it'll be before I could get a new cat after she passes. She took me through the worst parts of my life so far, and I can't explain it but she's just... Wise. You look at her and know she knows things.
-Starlight Haven-
07:13:50 Shark/Kai/Moon
-HEE Click-
caught that on my alt..not sure what to think about it lol
Winterfall
07:13:49 →Winter
my cat's still pretty young, he's about 8 or 7. Found him in 2019, abandoned and crying when he was a kitten in the snow.
Glacier Bay Cove
07:13:07 Glacier Kittens
I went through the grieving process, and after a long while I got two more cats
Ironhoof Estates
07:11:50 Darkside | Grape
My cat is currently... 13? 14? Got her as a kitten when I was seven or eight, can't remember exactly. Thankfully she's still fat and happy despite some scares.
Glacier Bay Cove
07:10:51 Glacier Kittens
What does your cat look like, Red Willow
Red Willow Stables
07:10:36 
I still don't know what I'm going to do with myself once she dies tho
Winterfall
07:10:22 →Winter
hi ya'll! I'm so sorry myth!
Red Willow Stables
07:10:12 
I currently have a cat because I had been attacked by a dog two years ago and suffered trauma. so now I have a cat
Ironhoof Estates
07:08:45 Darkside | Grape
Myth, oh no. I'm so sorry friend, you've been through too much in the last month 💔
Glacier Bay Cove
07:05:26 Glacier Kittens
I have a foot cat
Spellbound Acres
06:39:37 Roan🦋⃤
I relate as well; I lost my heart dog to parvo last year. I'm so sorry Myth.
Mythological
06:38:52 Crowley | Krampus
You might want to put that in lowercase and spell out the words so you don't get in trouble.
Glacier Bay Cove
06:37:46 Glacier Kittens
I relate to that, after losing my first two emotional support cats
Red Willow Stables
06:36:52 
U R NOT ALONE!!!
Mythological
06:36:42 Crowley | Krampus
He was born here. I bonded with him at 5 weeks old. We could never stay mad at each other.
Red Willow Stables
06:36:39 
Myth im so sorry!!! My friend's dog died a month after she got him, and we were all devastated, I can relate.

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Glacier Bay Cove
07:18:09 Glacier Kittens
I still miss them so much
Glacier Bay Cove
07:17:45 Glacier Kittens
Hopefully she is, both of my heart cats had kidney failure
Winterfall
07:15:42 →Winter
that's a pretty horse, Shark! Also can relate to grieving, i remember when my old cat Allie ran away. Never found her again and I still wonder if she's alive today, Glacier
Darkside Dreams
07:14:39 Grape | X hoarder
I don't know how long it'll be before I could get a new cat after she passes. She took me through the worst parts of my life so far, and I can't explain it but she's just... Wise. You look at her and know she knows things.
-Starlight Haven-
07:13:50 Shark/Kai/Moon
-HEE Click-
caught that on my alt..not sure what to think about it lol
Winterfall
07:13:49 →Winter
my cat's still pretty young, he's about 8 or 7. Found him in 2019, abandoned and crying when he was a kitten in the snow.
Glacier Bay Cove
07:13:07 Glacier Kittens
I went through the grieving process, and after a long while I got two more cats
Ironhoof Estates
07:11:50 Darkside | Grape
My cat is currently... 13? 14? Got her as a kitten when I was seven or eight, can't remember exactly. Thankfully she's still fat and happy despite some scares.
Glacier Bay Cove
07:10:51 Glacier Kittens
What does your cat look like, Red Willow
Red Willow Stables
07:10:36 
I still don't know what I'm going to do with myself once she dies tho
Winterfall
07:10:22 →Winter
hi ya'll! I'm so sorry myth!
Red Willow Stables
07:10:12 
I currently have a cat because I had been attacked by a dog two years ago and suffered trauma. so now I have a cat
Ironhoof Estates
07:08:45 Darkside | Grape
Myth, oh no. I'm so sorry friend, you've been through too much in the last month 💔
Glacier Bay Cove
07:05:26 Glacier Kittens
I have a foot cat
Spellbound Acres
06:39:37 Roan🦋⃤
I relate as well; I lost my heart dog to parvo last year. I'm so sorry Myth.
Mythological
06:38:52 Crowley | Krampus
You might want to put that in lowercase and spell out the words so you don't get in trouble.
Glacier Bay Cove
06:37:46 Glacier Kittens
I relate to that, after losing my first two emotional support cats
Red Willow Stables
06:36:52 
U R NOT ALONE!!!
Mythological
06:36:42 Crowley | Krampus
He was born here. I bonded with him at 5 weeks old. We could never stay mad at each other.
Red Willow Stables
06:36:39 
Myth im so sorry!!! My friend's dog died a month after she got him, and we were all devastated, I can relate.

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Frame Overo genetics November 24, 2020 11:08 AM

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Can someone explain the genetics of Frame Overo to me? I thought I understood it, but I've found horses that have frame patterning with oo and Oo genes. I thought it was a recessive gene, and then I thought it was a dominant gene, and now I don't know what to think. I've looked, but I can't find anything that answers my question. Anyone have an explanation?
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Frame Overo genetics November 24, 2020 11:47 AM


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Frame Overo is a dominant gene. If they have it, they will express it. What you're running into, and why you cannot find any homozygous (OO) horses, is Frame Overo is lethal in it's homozygous form. The foals will die shortly after birth. On HEE, that simply translates to a message that 'the foal was lethal white and perished', meaning you don't get the baby out of the match.
The same thing is true for White (W). You're not going to find any homozygous White horses because WW foals also die at birth.

Edited at November 24, 2020 02:46 PM by Silent Grove
Frame Overo genetics November 24, 2020 07:00 PM

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I understand that part. I was just confused because I found what appear to be frame horses that have an oo genotype. Are those horses not really frames and are instead some form of sabino or something?
Frame Overo genetics November 24, 2020 07:22 PM


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Yes, I'd say you're seeing a Sb or another marking! Spl could be what you're seeing as well. There's also different markings for homo/hetero patterns where some homo genes make patterns very large.
Frame Overo genetics November 24, 2020 09:19 PM

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Great, thanks for the help!!!
Frame Overo genetics December 2, 2020 09:19 PM

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Wait, if you breed an oo with an Oo, will you get an Oo or an oo?
Frame Overo genetics December 2, 2020 09:35 PM


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SweetFire Fields said:
Wait, if you breed an oo with an Oo, will you get an Oo or an oo?


You can get either. From an Oo and an oo, there are four possible outcomes- two are Oo, and two are oo. From an Oo and an Oo, you can get an OO (lethal white), 2/4 chance of Oo, and oo.

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