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BlackRose
05:17:10 Stella
All the breeding quests and I can’t rate the foals 😭 shadow boxing the air rn xD
River
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BlackRose
05:11:27 Stella
Thank you for letting me know!!
Angels angels
05:10:52 [1k+ brindles] Angel
They should be within 1-2 bars of eachother
Angels angels
05:10:28 [1k+ brindles] Angel
If they are PPP+ it doesn't happen
BlackRose
05:10:22 Stella
Should their training bars be all the same or close to each other?
Angels angels
05:10:10 [1k+ brindles] Angel
No normally just if they are S or lower or like PSS or lower
Angels angels
05:09:51 [1k+ brindles] Angel
If there is more than 3 bar difference in their training I scrap them
BlackRose
05:09:36 Stella
Do horses P/P/P and P/E/E do the same?
Angels angels
05:09:08 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I just scrap them. There is no fixing it.
BlackRose
05:08:36 Stella
Oh yeah…. I didn’t know that messed up their showing… if that happens do I just scrap them? Or keep training and try to fix it?
Angels angels
05:07:36 [1k+ brindles] Angel
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Like this. See how low the Str is compared to the other two
BlackRose
05:07:33 Stella
Awh what I didn’t know that… shit… I’m gonna have to check them a lot more now I think..
Fable
05:07:24 
Ohh she's gorgeous grown up *-*
Angels angels
05:06:56 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Stella
If they have an S rating or even sometimes if they have a P and the other two are lower, they can train messed up. Like uneven. Then they can't show
Fable
05:06:32 
She's an EEE and I'm a happy camper now
BlackRose
05:06:16 Stella
wait can their training be bad..?
Angels angels
05:06:15 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Nice Fable!
Angels angels
05:05:30 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I train and show anything S+ but you just have to watch their training
The Feral Equine
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BlackRose
05:17:10 Stella
All the breeding quests and I can’t rate the foals 😭 shadow boxing the air rn xD
River
05:13:14 ♡ River
You have received a gift from weird annoying dude .
Item: Bronze Breeding Token

Thanks weird annoying dude 👍🏻
BlackRose
05:11:27 Stella
Thank you for letting me know!!
Angels angels
05:10:52 [1k+ brindles] Angel
They should be within 1-2 bars of eachother
Angels angels
05:10:28 [1k+ brindles] Angel
If they are PPP+ it doesn't happen
BlackRose
05:10:22 Stella
Should their training bars be all the same or close to each other?
Angels angels
05:10:10 [1k+ brindles] Angel
No normally just if they are S or lower or like PSS or lower
Angels angels
05:09:51 [1k+ brindles] Angel
If there is more than 3 bar difference in their training I scrap them
BlackRose
05:09:36 Stella
Do horses P/P/P and P/E/E do the same?
Angels angels
05:09:08 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I just scrap them. There is no fixing it.
BlackRose
05:08:36 Stella
Oh yeah…. I didn’t know that messed up their showing… if that happens do I just scrap them? Or keep training and try to fix it?
Angels angels
05:07:36 [1k+ brindles] Angel
-HEE Click-
Like this. See how low the Str is compared to the other two
BlackRose
05:07:33 Stella
Awh what I didn’t know that… shit… I’m gonna have to check them a lot more now I think..
Fable
05:07:24 
Ohh she's gorgeous grown up *-*
Angels angels
05:06:56 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Stella
If they have an S rating or even sometimes if they have a P and the other two are lower, they can train messed up. Like uneven. Then they can't show
Fable
05:06:32 
She's an EEE and I'm a happy camper now
BlackRose
05:06:16 Stella
wait can their training be bad..?
Angels angels
05:06:15 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Nice Fable!
Angels angels
05:05:30 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I train and show anything S+ but you just have to watch their training
The Feral Equine
05:04:45 Khaos
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Breeding for ratings questions September 5, 2025 09:13 PM

Jezarae
 
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I'm a newbie and I'm still in my researching phase and figuring out my goals. I think i want to work towards breeding for ratings. If anyone wants to help answer some of these questions, or even give any advice, I am open to any help! Sorry if of these questions have already been asked a million times or seem silly.
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Is there a specific age that is the best time to breed horses. Like should I wait for my horses to be older and fully trained or see how they perform in shows? Curious on the general consensus.
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When matching breedings, I see people mark down training progress. Since some ppl track 7 or 12 weeks, what info am I trying to look at here. Like why do you need to look at multiple weeks that have passed when you can see which bars are weaker currently?
How does breeding for ratings work. Like do you want to pair high rating to low or high to high. Is it an average? Is it mostly random? Can ExE ever throw a W combo?
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Is it possible to be successful/on the leaderboards without inbreeding? Like I dont mind some inbreeding if its further off the front page of pedigree or like great great grandparents but I really prefer to stay away from inbreeding.

Edited at September 5, 2025 09:14 PM by Jezarae
Breeding for ratings questions September 5, 2025 09:21 PM


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Question 1: You can breed your horse when it's a 3 year old, you don't need to wait until they're any older but you are best waiting until they have trained to about 7-8 weeks (which they should be if trained from the time they're born anyway). You don't need to show them, to breed :)

Question 2: Training a horse you want to match correctly is imporant because it finds your horses weakness. You always want to match mares to a stallion who is weak in what your mare is strong in. That way, they match :) You can still use breeding items of course

Question 3: RF (random factor) as we call it... can surprise you and throw all sorts of ratings lol. I've had two EEE's throw me an EWW foal lol but she didn't produce very well. WWW x WWW can still throw you PEE even if matched. That's just RF lol but matching a s still important :)

Question 4: Inbreeding (not not inbreeding) doesn't effect LB standings :)

This was a rushed write up but I hope it can help <3

Breeding for ratings questions September 6, 2025 11:09 PM

Jezarae
 
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Thanks for the quick reply!
I ask if there's a benefit to breeding at older age vs younger because I didnt know if traits or anything inheritable becomes stronger as the horse ages. Like in another game I play you build stats as the horse ages and so to make the best foal its best to breed when a horse is older. I didnt know if something similar applies in this game.
Breeding for ratings questions September 6, 2025 11:37 PM


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Jezarae said:
Thanks for the quick reply!
I ask if there's a benefit to breeding at older age vs younger because I didnt know if traits or anything inheritable becomes stronger as the horse ages. Like in another game I play you build stats as the horse ages and so to make the best foal its best to breed when a horse is older. I didnt know if something similar applies in this game.


Age won't matter its the training that does matter when it comes too breeding
Breeding for ratings questions September 7, 2025 04:57 PM

Jezarae
 
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But doesn't a horse have more training the older it gets?
Breeding for ratings questions September 7, 2025 05:11 PM


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Yes it will accumulate more training throughout time but more training doesn't equal better/stronger foals :)
You just want more training to be able to tell what the horse's strengths and weaknesses are so that you can match it well when breeding <3
(So if a stallion is weak in one trait, you want to breed him to a mare that's strong in that trait, etc.)
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Edit: There are a few guides throughout the forums that better explain how to match based on training ^^

Edited at September 7, 2025 05:17 PM by Gem
Breeding for ratings questions September 8, 2025 10:59 AM


Deep Space Nine
 
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Here's my two-cents worth as a SH ratings breeder with multiple horses on the All Breed Leaderboard (ABLB). Also rubs hands gleefully because I LOVE the technical aspects of ratings breeding
Note - This is turning into a longer post than I expected, lol. Will be back to further update and answer your latest question, jezarae. :)
Is there a specific age that is the best time to breed horses. Like should I wait for my horses to be older and fully trained or see how they perform in shows? Curious on the general consensus.
As Gem stated above, a higher training level does not equate to a stronger horse or foals. All foals are born as strong as they are ever going to be due to Random Factor(RF). RF is the roulette wheel computer algorithm that is spun every time a foal is bred. The number the algorithm lands on determines how strong the horse is and what ratings it has. Nobody but Eve (game owner), knows how the algorithm works - hence the name, Random Factor. There is a wide range to RF, so not all horses with the same ratings are equally strong. Ex: You might have two EEE horses, but one is a weak EEE that barely avoided being a PPP and the other a strong EEE that almost made WWW.
Possible ratings, from weakest to strongest, are: Sub-Par, Average, Superb, Premium, Elite, and World Class.
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Show performance does not influence foal production. It's just a money maker for your stable.
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Horses can breed from 3-17 years old. They have a gradually increasing chance of dying from the age of 19. Horses age 1 year per real-life month, as that is equal to 1 game year.
Showing up on the ratings leaderboards is a combination of the parent's innate strength and the strength of their foals. A mare has to have 3 foals to show up on a ratings LB. These foals are generally bred between 3-5 years (now possible at 4yo due to 2 embryos per game year) so breeders know ASAP if a horse is going to make the LB.
Stallions can debut on a LB at 3yo. They have to have at least 10 foals, at least one of which has to be live cover bred instead of straws.
When matching breedings, I see people mark down training progress. Since some ppl track 7 or 12 weeks, what info am I trying to look at here. Like why do you need to look at multiple weeks that have passed when you can see which bars are weaker currently?
Tracking training is essential for ratings breeding. Training tells you what traits are stronger and weaker. The six traits are Movement, Intelligence, Heart, Scope, Speed, & Strength. Mv, Int, & Str are the traits associated with the dressage rating. Hrt, Spd, & Str are the traits associated with the Cross-country rating. Hrt, Scp, & Spd are the traits associated with the Jumping rating.
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You can usually see which traits are weak/strong on the current bars, but tracking training gives you a exact record of strengths/weaknesses as bars change with training and strengths/weaknesses may not be evident on Roll Over (RO) week.
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Wks 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, & 12 are the most significant as these weeks usualy give a good indication of strengths and weaknesses.
Wks 4, 8, & 12: All bars up is ideal. Most likely to happen with strong EEE or higher rated horses. Weaker/Lower rated horses usually don't train as well.
Wks 7, 10, & 11: Bars up these weeks are where your horses is really strong, esp. wks 10 & 11. Usually, only horses with at least 1 W in their rating will go up any on these weeks.
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I've used "ideally" and "usually" as this is typically how training goes, but there are exceptions. This Girl went up only 4/6 wks 4 & 8, then when up 4/6 wks 7 & 11 and spent her entire breeding career on the ABLB.
This Girl has very similar training and didn't make it on to any LB.
This Girl is currently #38 on the SHLB with very odd training. She didn't show a strength till wk 11 & weakness till wk 15. It took 23 weeks to get an accurate picture that she was weakest in dressage & cross country.
This Girl is a 2yo who just had her wk 7 and has very ideal & strong looking training.
How does breeding for ratings work. Like do you want to pair high rating to low or high to high. Is it an average? Is it mostly random? Can ExE ever throw a W combo?
Breeding is not quite as random as RF might imply. Breeding strong horses and matching well is also important. Breeding strong horses and matching well makes it more likely that you will get a strong foal than if you didn't match or bred poor quality horses. However, RF is can skew the result anywhere from poor to average to exceptional. I liken it to breeding in real-life. You are more likely to get a champion foal from breeding two champions than if you bred horses that have never been successful, but you never truly know what the genetic lottery is going to spit out.
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You definitely want to breed to the highest ratings you can get. The quickest way to breed-up ratings is to invest in a few nice mares or broods and send them to the highest ABLB (or breed leaderboard for the weaker breeds) stud that matches them you can afford.
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It's not impossible to get a W combo from a EEExEEE, but it's much more likely to happen from a EEExW+ cross.
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Here's a super quick intro to matching.
You want to send your mare to a stallion that is strong in her weaker traits and you want your mare to be strong in the stallion's weaker traits.
This Match is an embryo that I will be using in 195.
Looking at Wilder's remarks, he went up 4/6 wk 7, so Int and Scp are his weakest traits. Bontia's wk 7 was Int and Scp, so her strongest traits are his weaknesses.
Bontia's weaknesses are Str followed by Hrt. Wilder's strongest trait is Str - and if I remember right from one of his not recorded training wks - he's also stronger in Hrt.
Is it possible to be successful/on the leaderboards without inbreeding? Like I dont mind some inbreeding if its further off the front page of pedigree or like great great grandparents but I really prefer to stay away from inbreeding.
It's certainly not impossible to be successful/on the LB without too much inbreeding. Some breeds are less inbred than others. SH are probably the least inbred as they can cross with any breed and still produce a SH, which allows for more genetic diversity. Most of the other breeds can only cross with a couple of breeds and/or aren't as strong so the top of the boards have less genetic diversity. It's likely going to be more difficult and a longer-term project depending on which breed(s) you choose. If you look at the pedigrees/COI of the top LBs, the COIs are fairly high for most breeds except the SHs, though some of those are more inbred. It took me 4 real-life years of dedicated showing and building up my gelding army to fund breeding before I got my first ABLB horse. HEE is an escape from RL for me, so I don't care how inbred the pixel ponies are, but the great thing about HEE is that you can make your stable whatever you want to. :) So if making things as close to real-life as possible is what keeps you coming back, go for it! :)

Edited at September 14, 2025 02:26 PM by Deep Space Nine
Breeding for ratings questions September 10, 2025 09:55 PM

Jezarae
 
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I greatly appreciate the detailed reply, Deep Space Nine! I'm adding lots of info to my HE notes.
If you breed the same mare and stallion together multiple times in their lifetime, would the foals get different ratings each time?
Breeding for ratings questions September 14, 2025 02:30 PM


Deep Space Nine
 
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Jezarae said:
I greatly appreciate the detailed reply, Deep Space Nine! I'm adding lots of info to my HE notes.
If you breed the same mare and stallion together multiple times in their lifetime, would the foals get different ratings each time?


It is quite possible that the same pairing would give different ratings. You never know which way RF is going to swing things. And even if it does produce the same rating, they probably won't be equally strong, also due to RF.
Breeding for ratings questions September 15, 2025 09:48 PM

Jezarae
 
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Just noticed you updated your comment! Thanks for taking the time. The examples help me with understanding tracking training. It's a shame if someone forgets to document training in remarks there's no way to go back to get that info.
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Under the breeders leaderboards, what makes a mare qualify for "best eventing mares". Is it determined by show winnings? Or offspring show winnings?
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Why do some horse COI say unknown?
Hmm I need to think about how I feel about inbreeding. I'm used to playing sim games where horses with 10+ foals is a bad thing and inbreeding is frowned upon so it was wild to see some horses have 400 foals. But I guess lots of offspring is encouraged here, since each mare and stallion need a certain number of foals to even get on the leaderboards. I have to make some adjustments to my mindset.
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When ppl try to breed to LB studs, which ones are the most saught after. Like which LB category are you referring to? Top www producers?

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